Craig Dunn, guest of The Power of Design Podcast

Craig Dunn

Managing Partner

Carolina Office Solutions

Episode 104

25 Years of Resilience in Business With Craig Dunn

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Introduction

Craig Dunn, Managing Partner at Carolina Office Solutions, joins Jack Ossa on The Power of Design Podcast to mark 25 years in business. Craig and his partner Ted Peterson started with $150 each and a few used chairs, and built a Charlotte company that resells and supplies office furniture, new and used.

Over a glass of bourbon, he talks about the beginnings, the recession, COVID, and what he has learned about slowing down, choosing the right customers and leaning on other business owners.

About the Episode

Craig grew up in Charlotte, played soccer, attended college at the Citadel and Appalachian State, and spent about a year traveling in Europe with Ted after graduating. The pair missed a boat in Greece and turned it into a metaphor for business: when an opportunity appears, ask whether you are about to miss the boat. Back in Charlotte they worked at a moving company, noticed the demand for used furniture and started buying chairs and storing them in mini warehouses.

He tells the story of the company's early growth, the delivery of furniture by borrowed pickup trucks, and the lunch that led him to Entrepreneurs' Organization. Then come the hard stretches: a recession in which prices fell by about three quarters, and COVID, which cut the team from 23 people to seven. Craig says the smaller team produced the company's best year and showed how much time he could win back.

Jack asks about strengths and weaknesses, and about the effect of AI on his industry. Craig also shares what he would take to a desert island and what it was like to learn from his EO peers.

Key Takeaways

  • Start with what you have: two friends, $150 each and borrowed pickup trucks were enough to begin.
  • Find your place in the market: Carolina Office Solutions blends new and used furniture and liquidates furniture for firms that are not competitors.
  • Know who you are not: a growth plan that required 70 employees showed the partners what they did not want to build.
  • Smaller can work: after COVID, seven people delivered the company's best year and bought the owner time.
  • Trust your gut: projects taken for the money and against a first impression usually turn out not to be worth it.
  • Learn from peers: forums and mastermind groups give owners honest experience without advice that tries to fix them.
  • Prepare for AI: Craig says companies that use AI are the ones that will outcompete those that do not, and he is making time to learn it.

Highlights from the Conversation

Basically what we do is we blend new and used furniture to value engineer somebody's furniture so that they have the experience that somebody that spends a lot of money has.

Craig Dunn

We just spent the best money we've ever spent to figure out who we aren't.

Craig Dunn

My biggest strength is I can walk away from any deal.

Craig Dunn

Topics Discussed

  • Starting a business with $150 and used furniture
  • Bootstrapping with mini warehouses and borrowed trucks
  • Recession pricing and difficult conversations with staff
  • Planning growth and deciding who you do not want to be
  • COVID, a smaller team and a record year
  • Used furniture and how office layouts are changing
  • Peer groups, accountability and reflective listening
  • AI and the future of the industry

Why This Conversation Matters

Furniture is part of how a workplace works, and this episode shows how a long-running company thinks about reuse, cost and flexibility. Companies planning a new office can combine good design with a practical furniture plan, as in our interior architecture work for the BWM Office and the Collet Office. Craig's point about finding a position that fits who you are also applies to branding: a company grows more easily when it knows what it is and what it is not.

About the Guest

Craig Dunn is Managing Partner at Carolina Office Solutions, a Charlotte company that supplies new and used office furniture, which he co-owns with childhood friend Ted Peterson. He grew up in Charlotte, studied at the Citadel and Appalachian State, and has run the company for 25 years. He is also a member of the Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO).

Connect with Craig Dunn on LinkedIn | Visit Carolina Office Solutions

Frequently Asked Questions

How did Carolina Office Solutions start?

Craig Dunn and his childhood friend Ted Peterson each invested $150 and began buying used office furniture, storing it in mini warehouses that gave the first 30 days free, and reselling it to companies they met through a moving company job. They ran it part-time at first. After about two years Craig quit his job, and Ted followed him the same day.

What does the company do today?

Craig describes the business as blending new and used furniture to value engineer a client's space, so a company gets the experience of a much larger budget. The company also liquidates furniture for workplace and project management firms and runs a 75,000 square foot warehouse in Charlotte.

How did the company get through the recession and COVID?

During the recession, prices fell sharply: something Craig sold for $1,200 in 2006 sold for $300 in 2008, so the team did far more work for the same revenue. Ted saw it coming and the team was reduced early. When COVID hit, the staff dropped from 23 to seven, and the company later had its best year ever with seven people, which showed what the business really needed.

What did the growth plan teach Craig and Ted?

A fractional CFO built a five-year plan to triple the business, and Craig noticed it required 70 employees. Neither partner wanted that. He says it was the best money they had spent because it showed who they did not want to be, a month before COVID.

Why does Craig value peer groups like EO?

He says a peer group gave him companionship on the journey that he could not get from a business partner. Mastermind and forum members share experience without trying to fix each other, and accountability to goals helps people follow through.

Let’s work together.

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