Demetri Baches, guest of The Power of Design Podcast

Demetri Baches

Managing Partner, Expert Urbanist

Metrocology

Episode 55

Designing the perfect city with Demetri Baches

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Introduction

Demetri Baches, founder of the strategic planning and urban design consultancy Metrocology, talks with Jack Ossa about what makes cities work. With more than 30 years of experience in urban design and development in the United States and abroad, he explains why he believes walkability underlies everything else.

The conversation follows his path from a bartending job to zoning administrator in a small town, through decades with an international urban design firm and offices in Asia, to his current projects, including a master plan for an island nation relocating to higher ground.

About the Episode

Demetri describes how growing up between North Carolina and Florida, and traveling to Greece to see family, taught him to notice how different places feel. He distinguishes standard of living, measured in possessions, from quality of life, measured in how people live in a place, and says his own view of what is ahead for American cities came from seeing older cities abroad.

His career began in the town of Belmont, North Carolina, where a master plan from an urban design firm changed how he saw the field. He set up a planning department, helped implement the downtown plan and led the writing of a form-based zoning ordinance for an existing town. That work led to about 20 years with the firm, first in the United States and then in Asia, where cities were growing in a few years and he had to adapt quickly.

Back in the United States, he started Metrocology to work with communities and developers. He discusses the Nauru master plan, the role of data and visuals in planning, the legacy of copied zoning rules, Charlotte's recent planning debates, and what an ideal city looks like.

Key Takeaways

  • Walkability comes first: a good walking environment supports sustainability, resilience and a feeling of care for a place.
  • Quality of life differs from standard of living: one is about possessions, the other about how you live in a place.
  • Administration and design go together: to change places, you need to understand procedures and public outreach as well as drawing.
  • Listen first: spend time with the people who live in a place before presenting solutions, because without their buy-in nothing happens.
  • Show, do not only write: modern zoning documents use diagrams and views so people understand what the text will produce.
  • Rethink legacy policies: many zoning, public works and transportation standards were copied from the past and were meant to count things, not create places.
  • Combine great private and public realms: the best places pair good housing with a good outdoor civic room.

Highlights from the Conversation

It boils down to one simple thing, which is walkability.

Demetri Baches

The mentality you have to take, which is to stop, listen and look first, and then interject your ideas and thoughts based on what you hear from the people that you're hired by.

Demetri Baches

When we were our poorest, we built the most amazing buildings.

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Topics Discussed

  • Walkability and the case for traditional urbanism
  • Standard of living compared with quality of life
  • Becoming a zoning administrator and learning on the job
  • The Belmont downtown plan and form-based zoning
  • Urban design work in Asia
  • Master planning for the island nation of Nauru
  • Data, technology and visual communication
  • Legacy zoning rules and what an ideal city looks like

Why This Conversation Matters

Demetri's emphasis on walkable, mixed and human-scale places is relevant to every building we design. Projects like the townhome community Metric Townhomes belong to larger neighborhoods, and our architecture and interior architecture teams also reuse and reposition existing buildings, such as Hedgemore Flex, so they keep adding life to the city around them.

About the Guest

Demetri Baches is the founder and managing partner of Metrocology, a strategic planning, urban design and development consulting firm. He has more than 30 years of experience on multidisciplinary planning projects in the United States and internationally, studied geography and business, began his career as a zoning administrator in Belmont, North Carolina and worked for about 20 years with an international urban design firm, where he became a director and opened its first Asia office. He now works from Savannah, Georgia.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What does Demetri Baches say makes a city vibrant?

After more than 30 years in urban design, he says it boils down to walkability. He argues that people's basic physical needs have not changed, so a good walking environment supports sustainability, culture, economics and care for a place, and that face-to-face life in a square, park or street cannot be replaced by technology.

How did Demetri start in urban design?

He studied geography and business and took a job as zoning administrator for the town of Belmont, North Carolina. When Belmont hired a Florida urban design firm to prepare a downtown master plan, he coordinated the work and then spent three years implementing it, including rewriting the zoning ordinance. He later worked for that firm for about 20 years, including opening its first Asia office.

What is the Nauru project?

Metrocology has been hired to prepare the master plan for the island nation of Nauru's Higher Ground initiative, which aims to relocate the population to the plateau left by phosphate mining as sea level rise and climate change affect the coast. Demetri says it will take a year, followed by years of implementation, and could become a template for other islands.

Why does he say modern cities are stuck with outdated rules?

Demetri says most zoning ordinances, building codes and transportation standards were copied from a few documents of the past and were written to measure things, not to create places. Cities need to free themselves of those legacy policies and educate the public as they do.

What is the difference between standard of living and quality of life?

Standard of living is about possessions such as cars and appliances, while quality of life is about what you do in your free time and how you live in a place. Demetri says designers and planners work to move the seesaw so both improve, and that the ideal city pairs a great private realm with a great public realm.

Let’s work together.

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