Jes Sanders & Toby Witte, guest of The Power of Design Podcast

Jes Sanders

Architect Owner

Studio S Architecture

Toby Witte

Architect Owner

WitteHaus

Episode 38

Entrepreneur architects with Jes Sanders and Toby Witte

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Introduction

Jack Ossa tries a different format on The Power of Design Podcast: two guests at once. He invites two local architects he admires, Jes Sanders of Studio S Architecture and Toby Witte of WitteHaus, to talk about what it is like to own a small design firm. Jes does residential and commercial architecture, and Toby specializes in modern, sustainable homes.

All three run their own practices, so the conversation is a peer exchange about design, business and the challenges and benefits of working for yourself.

About the Episode

Asked about the best part of owning a firm, Toby says it is being able to push projects in the right direction, and Jes points to the variety of tasks, from sales to design. Toby grew up near Hamburg, Germany, trained as a draftsman, came to Charlotte, studied at UNC Charlotte and spent about 15 years running a design-build company before starting WitteHaus three years ago. Jes grew up between San Diego and the Gulf Coast, framed houses before going to school, graduated from UNC Charlotte in 2004 and worked at several commercial firms before opening Studio S about five and a half years ago.

A large part of the episode is about how architects get clients. Toby says every person in the region who wants a modern home should know about him, and he uses social media, outreach and automation. Jes relies on relationships and has added a questionnaire to his site. Jack explains the difference between branding, marketing and sales, and the group agrees that giving away useful information builds trust. They also discuss how to explain the value of design, the technology they use, such as Revit, Lumion and project-management software, and what the profession will look like when automation takes over repetitive work.

Toward the end, the three talk about being a solo owner, the need for community and accountability, and their goals for the next five to ten years.

Key Takeaways

  • Ownership means control and variety: running your own firm lets you shape your projects and take on sales, design and marketing yourself.
  • Good work does not sell itself: Jack stresses that architects need to understand the sales process, because it fuels the business.
  • Separate branding, marketing and sales: each does a different job, from the story to the telling to the conversation.
  • Give value before you are hired: upfront information, useful newsletters and content that teaches, entertains or inspires build trust.
  • Ask before you pitch: in a pitch, Jack says he would ask about the client's priorities instead of talking about himself.
  • Defend the value of design: a signature space or a smart wall can change a project without large cost, and design should not be sold like a commodity.
  • Look for community: small-firm owners benefit from peer groups and accountability outside their own bubble.

Highlights from the Conversation

If not every single person in this greater region who is interested in modern homes does know about me, I'm doing something wrong.

Toby Witte

You don't buy a Picasso by the square foot.

Jes Sanders

Most of the built environment around us is just poorly designed.

Toby Witte

Topics Discussed

  • The rewards of owning a design firm
  • Career paths from Germany and from framing houses
  • Custom commercial and modern residential work
  • Finding clients through relationships and social media
  • Branding, marketing and sales
  • The value of design versus a commodity mindset
  • Software, visualization and automation
  • The future of design, robotics and community

Why This Conversation Matters

Small firms face the same question every design client asks: what is the value of design beyond a good plan? Our architecture work, from housing such as Metric Townhomes to renovation projects like Pine Lake Country Club, depends on explaining that value early. The guests also discuss how a clear story and a consistent message win trust, which is the focus of our branding service for design and construction firms.

About the Guest

Jes Sanders is the architect and owner of Studio S Architecture, which does custom commercial architecture in Charlotte. Toby Witte is the architect and owner of WitteHaus, which designs and builds modern, energy-efficient homes. Connect with them on LinkedIn: Jes Sanders and Toby Witte, or visit the WitteHaus website.

Frequently Asked Questions

What do Jes Sanders and Toby Witte like best about owning an architecture firm?

Toby says it lets him steer projects in the right direction and bring his own point of view to clients. Jes agrees, adding that he likes the variety of responsibilities, from sales to design, and the freedom to chase an idea, though he calls that a double-edged sword.

How do they find new clients?

Toby relies on social media, his website, meeting people and automated systems that give prospects information up front. Jes uses social media, relationships with builders and developers, and a preliminary questionnaire on his website that gathers project details before the first conversation.

What is the difference between branding, marketing and sales?

Jack explains branding as the story about what you do, marketing as the things that tell that story when you are not there, and sales as the act of talking with someone when you are there. A logo, he says, is only part of the visual identity.

What types of projects do Jes and Toby design?

Jes describes his work as custom commercial architecture, from small projects to buildings of around 100,000 square feet, with strategic alliances for larger jobs. Toby designs exclusively modern, energy-efficient homes, including infill spec houses he builds and sells and custom homes for clients.

How do they see technology changing architecture?

They mention BIM and Revit, rendering and visualization, parametric site design tools, scanning for existing conditions and robotic modular construction. They think automation will free architects from repetitive drawing work and push the profession to focus on the value of design.

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