Amy Sullivan Hicks, guest of The Power of Design Podcast

Amy Sullivan Hicks

President

ABC Carolinas

Episode 26

Construction Master Networker with Amy Sullivan Hicks

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Introduction

Amy Sullivan Hicks, President of the Associated Builders and Contractors of the Carolinas (ABC Carolinas), joins Jack Ossa on The Power of Design Podcast to talk about networking, business development and the challenges of the construction industry. Amy has more than 20 years of experience connecting people and opportunities across design and construction.

The conversation took place in the summer of 2020, so it also reflects how the pandemic changed the way contractors find new clients, hold events and train workers.

About the Episode

Amy explains what she means by being a connector: being authentic, looking for how to help the other person and building a relationship before asking for a deal. She and Jack discuss why selling through LinkedIn messages and automated follow-ups does not work, and why people do business with those they know, like and trust.

She traces her career from selling swimming pool chemicals to an executive suite company, an accounting firm and an engineering firm, always keeping the relationships she built. Three months before the recording she became president and CEO of ABC Carolinas, a trade organization with a lobbying arm, an apprenticeship and safety program, and networking events.

Jack adds a brand consultant's view: many contractors struggle to explain what makes them different, so they compete on price, and a social media presence is not the same as a strategy. They also discuss women and diversity in construction, and Amy closes with two ways she sees the power of design: the path of a life, and the lines that connect people.

Key Takeaways

  • Be authentic in relationships: a meeting is for building trust and finding how to help, not only for asking for business.
  • Follow up quickly and personally: Amy connects on LinkedIn within 24 hours of meeting someone and avoids generic automated messages.
  • Trust makes the sale: clients want a go-to person they can call about a problem, and they leave when they do not have one.
  • Join organizations and lead: taking leadership roles deepens relationships and makes you the go-to contact.
  • Do not cut marketing in a downturn: Amy says the hose has to keep running, and companies that treat marketing as overhead will play catch-up.
  • Skilled labor is a core issue: apprenticeship programs and educating parents and schools are part of the answer.
  • Diversity needs real participation: inviting people to contribute their views matters more than checking a box.

Highlights from the Conversation

It's not just to have a meeting to ask for business, it's a meeting to develop that relationship.

Amy Sullivan Hicks

This is not the time to let go of your marketing and your business development.

Amy Sullivan Hicks

We need to let young girls know about the industry.

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Topics Discussed

  • Being a connector of people and opportunities
  • LinkedIn, video calls and keeping a network active
  • Hiring and mentoring business development professionals
  • What ABC Carolinas does and what members receive
  • Skilled labor shortages and apprenticeship programs
  • Marketing and social media strategy for contractors
  • Technology in construction and virtual events
  • Women and diversity in the industry

Why This Conversation Matters

Contractors and subcontractors often have excellent craft but struggle to explain why they are different. That is the gap a clear brand strategy fills, as in our work for Genesis Construction and MSW Engineers. Amy's point that people want a trusted contact behind the service is also what a consistent identity communicates before the first meeting. For companies growing their own facilities, our architecture work on the Crowder Construction Expansion shows how a construction firm's building can support its team.

About the Guest

Amy Sullivan Hicks is President and CEO of ABC Carolinas, where she manages a team of four and works to re-engage members. She grew up in Gastonia, North Carolina, studied business administration and marketing at UNC Charlotte, and spent her career in business development: swimming pool and chemical sales, an executive suite company for 13 years, an accounting firm and an engineering firm. She has been an ABC Carolinas member since 2012. Connect with her on LinkedIn or follow ABC Carolinas.

Frequently Asked Questions

What does it mean to be a connector of people and opportunities?

Amy Sullivan Hicks says it means being authentic in your relationships. She looks for ways to help someone and then connects them to what they need, so a meeting is about building the relationship and not only asking for business. Many people, she says, are looking for the next deal and skip that step.

How does Amy keep in touch with her network?

Within 24 hours of meeting someone she connects with them on LinkedIn and thanks them for the meeting. She also uses it to see shared connections. During the pandemic she added video calls, because business developers are people people who need to see each other.

What is ABC Carolinas and what does it offer members?

Associated Builders and Contractors of the Carolinas is a trade organization that supports merit shop and free enterprise businesses. Amy describes three arms: lobbying on behalf of the industry, apprenticeship and safety education, and networking events. Members include general contractors, subcontractors, suppliers, architects, attorneys, bankers and insurers.

What are the biggest problems facing contractors, according to Amy?

She names two: being able to forecast future sales after the stops and starts of 2020, and finding skilled workers. ABC addresses the second through apprenticeship programs and by encouraging parents and schools to present trades as an alternative to a four-year degree.

How can construction companies get more women into the industry?

Amy says young girls need to learn that the industry offers good jobs, with or without a four-year degree. When she joined ABC she also called five women to rejoin and take leadership roles on the Charlotte council, because the group needed diverse thinking. She distinguishes between inclusion and simply checking a box.

Let’s work together.

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